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Business I get the feeling Epic Cash will win this case against Zango? Old 01-26-2009, 10:48 PM
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http://www.xbiz.com/news/web/104126

Zango’s Federal Lawsuit Against Epic Cash Dismissed

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SEATTLE — A federal judge on Friday dismissed claims brought on by online advertising company Zango Inc. against affiliate program Epic Cash.
The legal dispute ruled on Friday commenced after Epic Cash filed suit in California against Zango and the owners of AdultFriendFinder.com.

Epic Cash charged unfair business practices, claiming Zango’s “wrongful display” of pop-ups and other advertisements “blocked content on [Epic Cash’s] websites for the purpose of promoting Zango’s clients, who offered services directly competitive to [Epic Cash’s],” according to court documents.

Zango responded with a countersuit, and Epic Cash later submitted a motion for summary judgment to U.S. District Court in Seattle.

On Friday, in a stinging rebuke, U.S. District Judge Ricardo S. Martinez said that Zango’s complaint was so broad that it would have amounted to an attempt to pre-empt all of Epic’s claims in the California action.

“Consideration of this complaint would impermissibly entangle this court in needless determinations of state law, possibly both Washington and California law under the ‘violates no right’ language of the request for relief,” he wrote.

Martinez also said that Zango’s suit at federal court in Seattle amounted to “forum-shopping.”

“The court notes the fact that Zango filed this suit just six days after counsel was shown the proposed California complaint as an invitation to discuss settlement,” Martinez wrote. “This can only be viewed as a race to the courthouse in an effort to gain a more favorable forum. Zango concealed from Epic the fact that the suit had been filed for more than five months, thereby stalling the filing of Epic’s complaint in California.”

Epic Cash attorney Gary Kaufman told XBIZ he agreed with the judge.

“[This was] a blatant attempt to gain a hometown advantage,” said Kaufman of Los Angeles-based law firm Kaufman Law Group. “Zango deliberately concealed this action and then used it as an ace in the hole to preempt Epic Cash’s California claims and keep the litigation in its backyard.

“Epic Cash can now move forward with its suit against Zango and AdultFriendFinder in the proper forum.”

In the California case, filed at Santa Clara County Superior Court, Epic Cash claims that once a computer is infected with Zango adware, the Zango Search Assistant monitors the user’s browser and collects keywords that are then used to trigger pop-up ads.

In that suit, AdultFriendFinder, a competitor of Epic Cash’s EpicCams.com website, is accused of having used Zango’s services to have “diverted traffic away from Epic Cash sites and converted Epic Cash’s business to their benefit,” by “taking advantage of plaintiff’s marketing efforts,” presumably when potential consumers are inputting certain keywords or searching for specific sites, which subsequently leads to Zango pop-up ads.

Epic Cash attorney Colin Hardacre, of Kaufman Law Group, told XBIZ that the California case was stayed pending the federal court’s decision.

"Now that the Washington case has been dismissed we can now move ahead aggressively in discovery," he said. "We have depositions pending, of both Zango and AdultFriendFinder, including Zango’s president, Keith Smith. They also owe us written discovery.

"Gary [Kaufman] and I both feel that Epic Cash’s chances of success in the California case are very good — we don’t take losing cases."

Epic Cash has asked for $750,000 in damages in the California case.

Zango spokesman Steve Stratz told XBIZ that the company plans to mount a veritable defense in the California case.

"We continue to be confident that Epic Cash's case is baseless and its claims are without merit and we will vigorously defend ourselves in the matter," he said.

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The former cam worker turned small time program owner will not win this case
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Default Old 01-26-2009, 11:05 PM
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I dont know what the court is less friendly to. Before I would say courts were anti porn, but now I think they are probably more anti spyware.

He probably though AFF was a good one to sue but I think the only money he may get is from Zango settling.

I think he probably has a decent case and at 750k he may settle for 100k with no trials.


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The former cam worker turned small time program owner will not win this case
Your program looks monstrous to epic cash.
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I think it will end with an out of court settlement. No way does Zango want a precendent set should they lose.
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Your program looks monstrous to epic cash.
hahaha, and which fake nick might you belong to?


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i agree
zango will offer trey 100k, trey will tell em make it 200k and buy me a beer


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does trey really want lawyers and the courts poking around epic's sales records?

this could be a massive backfire.
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looks like the lawyers children's college funds are being nicely funded.


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12clicks is just jealous... dont mind him.

We are quite happy with the Washington ruling. Lets see what happens next. Its too bad those that had the opportunity to hop on the bandwagon didnt when they had the chance, im sure they are kicking themselves right about now.

I have no problem opening my books from when I owned Epic Cash. I'm eagerly awaiting that with full disclosure available to the parties involved. I have always ran a tight ship, and we have the books to prove it. j

Just becuase 2 bit losers like JTF and some anon posters who never even worked for me talk trash doesnt make it true.... just the usual adult drama for the pale fatties to blubber about behind their cum stickied keyboards.


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trey never ceases to amuse me but good job on winning man. better you than them!
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What's the latest update to this? Last I checked I think Zango was denied their counter suit?
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What's the latest update to this? Last I checked I think Zango was denied their counter suit?
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yea exactly, they got busted for 'forum shopping' pretty much and 'race to the court house' as they say... So we can now move on to depositions which I cant wait for. The Judge in WA pretty much put the smack down on zango and was disgusted with the tactics they tried to pull to gain venue and also sue me for nothing, they didnt even have a claim in the suit, they just wanted to sue me first heh... crazy times we live in...


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